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by violetfae
on Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:13 pm |
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H.R. bill 1676
check it out at opencongress.org
say goodbye to online sales if this law be passed
contact your senator and representative and urge them to vote no on H.R. bill 1676
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by White Rabbit
on Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:36 pm |
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Looks like your are right. This bill needs to be defeated !
Check it out here:
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_1676.html
Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act of 2009 or PACT Act - Amends the Jenkins Act to: (1) include smokeless tobacco as a regulated substance; (2) impose shipping and recordkeeping requirements on delivery sellers (sellers using the telephone, mails, or the Internet) of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco; (3) require common carriers of cigarette products to obtain age and identity verification upon delivery of such products; (4) require the Attorney General to compile and publish a list of delivery sellers of cigarettes or smokeless tobacco who have not complied with the registration or other requirements of such Act; (5) increase criminal penalties and impose new civil penalties for violations of this Act; and (6) grant jurisdiction to U.S. district courts to prevent and restrain violations of this Act and direct the Attorney General to administer and enforce this Act.
Amends the federal criminal code to: (1) treat cigarettes and smokeless tobacco as nonmailable and prohibit such items from being deposited in or carried through the U.S. mails; and (2) authorize officers of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) to enter the premises of certain cigarette shippers to inspect records and inventories. |
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by garhkal
on Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:16 pm |
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| Turning smokers into criminals... what will they think of next? |
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by Asmoker2
on Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:29 pm |
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| Just give the antis enough rope and let 'em hang themselves. |
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by Tarhole
on Thu May 14, 2009 9:25 am |
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| Guess our soldiers overseas won't be receiving any decent care packages if this passes and is signed into law. |
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by libertarian99
on Thu May 14, 2009 12:24 pm |
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White Rabbit wrote: Looks like your are right. This bill needs to be defeated !
Check it out here:
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_1676.html
Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act of 2009 or PACT Act - Amends the Jenkins Act to: (1) include smokeless tobacco as a regulated substance; (2) impose shipping and recordkeeping requirements on delivery sellers (sellers using the telephone, mails, or the Internet) of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco; (3) require common carriers of cigarette products to obtain age and identity verification upon delivery of such products; (4) require the Attorney General to compile and publish a list of delivery sellers of cigarettes or smokeless tobacco who have not complied with the registration or other requirements of such Act; (5) increase criminal penalties and impose new civil penalties for violations of this Act; and (6) grant jurisdiction to U.S. district courts to prevent and restrain violations of this Act and direct the Attorney General to administer and enforce this Act.
Amends the federal criminal code to: (1) treat cigarettes and smokeless tobacco as nonmailable and prohibit such items from being deposited in or carried through the U.S. mails; and (2) authorize officers of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) to enter the premises of certain cigarette shippers to inspect records and inventories. |
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by Asmoker2
on Thu May 14, 2009 3:31 pm |
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Quote: I wonder if this Act applies to Indian reservations. It looks like that would be a giant loophole in the legislation that would really benefit the reservations, as they would be the only ones still allowed to ship cigs through the mail.
Good question, libertarian! I was ordering from an Indian reservation, because they disallowed them to sell a certain brand in my state and bordering states. Does anyone know? |
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by violetfae
on Thu May 14, 2009 4:33 pm |
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| If I understand correctly, you will still be allowed to buy from indian reservations, but you will have to pay local and state taxes. |
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by garhkal
on Thu May 14, 2009 5:51 pm |
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violetfae wrote: If I understand correctly, you will still be allowed to buy from indian reservations, but you will have to pay local and state taxes.
But are not indian reservations supposed to be free from the local and state taxes? If they try that, i will just DRIVE Onto them and buy in person. |
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by libertarian99
on Thu May 14, 2009 9:40 pm |
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garhkal wrote: violetfae wrote: If I understand correctly, you will still be allowed to buy from indian reservations, but you will have to pay local and state taxes.
But are not indian reservations supposed to be free from the local and state taxes? If they try that, i will just DRIVE Onto them and buy in person.
Another thing I thought about doing was taking a long road trip through the states that have the lowest taxes, buying cigs at various outlet stores along the way. Some of the states have dramatically lower taxes. You can find a map that shows all the tax rates here.
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/health/cigarette.htm
Unfortunately, my car is not dependable enough for a long road trip. I would probably end up paying for a major car repair, which would cancel all my cig tax savings.
What's the deal with the Indian cigarette brands, anyway? I've never tried any. Are they cheaper? |
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