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by rlf
on Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:20 pm |
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by Asmoker2
on Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:27 pm |
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Thanx for the links, rlf. This is just seriously serious. These people are lunatics and totally frightening in their convoluted thinking.
Even after OSHA's reports, they're still upholding their idiotic stance on second and now third hand smoke. OMG! |
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by Pete Gatti
on Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:35 pm |
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rlf wrote: Apparently smoking bans are going to a whole new level, based on the idea that "third-hand" smoke is a serious health threat to anyone who occupies the same room as a smoker for even one second.
Who would have, in their wildest dreams, thought people could be so frightened by bullshit science. No wonder anti has made such headway propagandizing a dumbed down America. Next they'll want us to wear arm bands so they can cross the street when they see us coming.
BTW, I got a good chuckle from one comment that epitomizes this ridicules phobia. A smoker goes into a bank and says, "Hand over the money or I'll start smoking." |
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by garhkal
on Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:40 pm |
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Pete Gatti wrote: rlf wrote: Apparently smoking bans are going to a whole new level, based on the idea that "third-hand" smoke is a serious health threat to anyone who occupies the same room as a smoker for even one second.
Who would have, in their wildest dreams, thought people could be so frightened by bullshit science. No wonder anti has made such headway propagandizing a dumbed down America. Next they'll want us to wear arm bands so they can cross the street when they see us coming.
BTW, I got a good chuckle from one comment that epitomizes this ridicules phobia. A smoker goes into a bank and says, "Hand over the money or I'll start smoking."
At least it is not as bad as england in where if you live on the council they can force you to quit/not smoke and pay for a fumigatoin service before the council reps come over for anything (even emergency repairs)... |
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by smallbird
on Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:22 pm |
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gahrkal--is "live on the council" the same as "public housing" or "low-income housing" in the U.S.? If it is, this problem is happening here also.  |
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by garhkal
on Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:19 pm |
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smallbird wrote: gahrkal--is "live on the council" the same as "public housing" or "low-income housing" in the U.S.? If it is, this problem is happening here also.
Yes it is. Basically when someone is unemployed or on what the english have as their welfare, they can get into council housing. The council gives you money which from you pay a small rent and rates/poll tax etc. |
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by freakycat
on Thu May 14, 2009 2:09 pm |
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Here is another link written by the nutcases themselves.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/health/research/03smoke.html
This is quasi science at it's best right here. People want proof of the existance of God or ghosts, and all attempts at proof no matter how compelling, they call quai-science, but this... this garbage passes as science? Where is the proof that any of this amounts to anything? It is propaganda of the worst kind.
It is so disgustingly prudish and OCD. It makes me want to take these self righteous imbecils out and roll them in a muddy pig lot, then blow smoke right in their face. I hate clean freaks, and this is just more of that. People think different kinds of dirt are going to kill them. Why don't they just live in plastic bubbles like that kid with no immunities back in the seventies. That would solve the whole problem. IF it isn't cigarettes it will be something else!
As for me I am deathly alergic to certain types of scented products and cleaning fluids, and a trip to a clean freak's house, sends me into coughing sneezy fits within minutes. When I stay in a motel I have to decline maid service, and go out before they clean the other rooms on that floor, but do I start a worldwide campaign to rid the world of that vanilla smelling crap? No I live with it. I run past Bed and Bath at the mall holding my breath. I avoid people's homes who think it is great their house smells like vanilla flavored terpentine. They won't let me smoke there either BTW. They smoke outside. LOL
Harmful is in the eye of the beholder. I know people who smoked like coal furnaces and lived into their 90's. I don't buy that it takes 12 years off my life to smoke, but if it does so be it. The last 12 years of anybody's life are usually pretty lame anyway IMO. I'd just as soon skip them, but I doubt that smoking is going to do that for me. LOL
The bottom line is that my smoking is none of anyone else's business, and this is a LIE to make it seem like it is. The insurance companies are the ones pushing this, but I do not have insurance. I haven't been to the doctor in over 10 years. Well for myself anyway. I've taken some non smokers to the doctor though in that time. LOL
My state is going smoke free soon anyway, so I guess I'll just stay home and mind my own business. LOL I know I will not be going out to eat as much, and I already cut way back on frequenting the malls and shopping places. We will see how their economy runs with 25 percent of us staying at home, not eating out and buying a lot less stuff. I already plan to take all my future vacations out of state.
I thought about staging a smoke in, and just flooding the courthouse with all the smokers I could round up... however I don't think I would find enough to stage this. It seems like they have shamed most of them into submission. We are not treated fairly. Did you know we can't even get organ transplants, simply because we smoke... not that I want one, but we can't. There are other procedures they won't fool with on a smoker as well.
If they come to my farm however and say I can't smoke, I'll run them off at gunpoint. |
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by Asmoker2
on Thu May 14, 2009 3:36 pm |
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freakycat wrote: If they come to my farm however and say I can't smoke, I'll run them off at gunpoint.
If they haven't confiscated your guns, you will. I fear the citizens of what use to be the United States of America, have more than one battle to fight. |
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by freakycat
on Thu May 14, 2009 5:47 pm |
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| That is very true, but if they have come to my farm for the guns, well the whole gun point thing would have already played out. I'll only be backed down so far. IF I owned a resturant it would already be ON. I would not let them come into property I own and tell me what I can and can't do there. That just ain't right. I hope that resturant owners fight this, and I'd be willing to help! Of course they won't. I wonder if we can get around this like we did with the unreasonable liquor laws, with private clubs... can they stop you from smoking if it is a private club? I might just open a speak easy for cigs. Got to check out the laws. |
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by garhkal
on Thu May 14, 2009 5:49 pm |
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freakycat wrote:
Harmful is in the eye of the beholder. I know people who smoked like coal furnaces and lived into their 90's. I don't buy that it takes 12 years off my life to smoke, but if it does so be it. The last 12 years of anybody's life are usually pretty lame anyway IMO. I'd just as soon skip them, but I doubt that smoking is going to do that for me.
Yup. I know one guy who is alergic to some of the chemicals they put into womens hair spray, and he gets almost as bad as those nut alergic people when he smells it.. BUT I do not see him advocating to ban it. |
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