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by Jay on Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:37 pm

Now that this site has a new owner, I hope sharing online smoke shops on here are allowed.

While I know most of the audience of this site prefer MYOs, I still wanna leave a link on a smaller tobacco brand that is a premium-like cigarette brand at a cheap price. I'm sure there are a few readers of this site who are looking for alternatives on smoking expensive premades without making their own.

http://trykick.com

Kick cigarettes is a brand that's more like a "premade version" of smoking cigs I could've made myself. The only thang I didn't like about MYOs is it took me 45 mins just to make 20 cigs (one pack). And I had to sweep up any tobacco bits on my kitchen table when done. I'd ratha spend time chainsmoking than spending nearly an hour just to make cigs.

I was extra careful in making them cause if I rushed or forced the lever on the Premier Supermatic machine to move, then I'd be in DEEP sheet if I broke the lever....especially if MYOs were my only cigs at all!

I guess that's why it took me almost an hour to make a pack. But with Kick, I don't need to worry about making cigs anymore period AND save money on not buying big name brands!

Jay

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Jun 10, 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Chicago

by CarlosAg on Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:49 pm

Bill did warn me that one of the big problems with running this site has been scammers - he said everyday the forum got spammed with all kinds of people selling something. This is the first link I've seen so far, so apparently it's not as problematic as every day. So to NoSmokeHere: I'll allow it, until people start complaining!

CarlosAg

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by NoSmokeHere on Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:21 pm

Thanks I will not abuse the system.

NoSmokeHere Newbie

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by Jay on Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:50 pm

For the record, that second site in this thread deals with the E-cigarette. While smokers switching to E-cigs is a good idea in the sense of politicians and states still losing smokers' money (since a E-cig smoker wouldn't be buying the "premade cigs" offline anymore), I ain't interested in a E-cig.

The E-cig looks like a cig. And you smoke it like a cig. But the reality it's not a cig since it has no tobacco in it. It still has nic in it of course. But not the same amount of nic in a normal cig.

I think the nic in the E-cig comes out of a battery. And when it runs outta nic, you gotta replace the battery with a new one. Feel free to correct me on how the E-cig works and where the nicotine comes from if not from a battery.

I did hear of people being able to smoke E-cigs in public places. But I bet it won't be long before antis find a way to ban smoking even E-cigs in a public place.

I heard about this product on TV as well off of a news program. The E-cig is actually meant to be a quit smoking product according to the reporter. But she said some smokers treat the E-cig more as an alternative to smoking.

I'm interested in smoking and tasting tobacco. Not just inhaling nicotine from non-tobacco smoke. A lotta folks in society think every smoker just smokes for the nicotine. Well if that was true, I dunno why 1000s of smokers are devoted to one brand. They would be smoking ANY cig brand if they just smoked for the nic.

I actually know why smokers are devoted to one brand. They're particularly addicted to the chemicals in that brand, and not just the nic. That's why (from my reading of the FSC online petition) a lotta Marlboro smokers would ratha quit smoking instead of switching to a cheapa brand or switch to making their own. They're more interested in the non-FSC Marlboros.

One Marlboro Red smoker told me online he stocked up on tons of non-FSC Marlboros to last him for a year. But he said he doesn't know what he will do when he runs outta packs.

I tried advising him to give Native American brands a try. I told him Seneca Reds taste a lot similar to Marlboro Reds, but Senecas are betta than Marlboro Reds (at least to me). He neva replied back to me.

One difference between Kick FFs and Seneca FFs is Kicks are smoother than Senecas. The strength of Kick FF's are sorta like medium strength to me. They not too strong but not really light eitha.

Kick Lights actually have a betta taste to me....they not that much lighta in strength (in comparison to Kick FFs). Kick Lights, unlike popular light cigs, don't taste like I'm inhaling fresh air instead of smoke while I take drags. Kick Lights have no vent holes around their filters, which is likely why they don't taste like an "airy cig."

A drag is when smokers suck on a cig or a cigar, in case a nonsmoker is reading this. One can't assume only smokers are reading this forum.

Jay

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Jun 10, 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Chicago

by Lynda F on Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:34 pm

Jay wrote:

I did hear of people being able to smoke E-cigs in public places. But I bet it won't be long before antis find a way to ban smoking even E-cigs in a public place.

Australia recently made the use, sale, possession of E-cigs ILLEGAL. The reason? Just as I said over a year ago....even though there is no smoke or tobacco, people can still carry out the "act of smoking".

It's never been about health...............it's just the act they hate.

Lynda F

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by Lynda F on Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:39 pm

CarlosAg wrote:

Welcome Carlos.

Now, on to this "spammer" thing.

I HATE SPAMMERS. I want to be alone with one for just 5 minutes.......my fantasies about this make the military's torture techniques look like your grandmother's tea party.

And for the record, most pushing this e-cig crap (with chemicals in it that seem to bother many who use it) push it as a "smoking cessation" device or a way to cut down your smoking. They don't really give a fig if it is a way around the bans (which is what the anti's claim it is and they want e-cigs banned too).

So, from me, you can expect a complaint about every spammer.

The regulars posting links to this stuff I have no problem with, but someone using an ID of "nosmokehere" pushing some fake cig that won't satisfy any smoker to start with....I consider a spammer.

But then I never professed to be politically correct anyway.

Lynda F

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by gilster on Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:09 am

I hate people posting their websites for products in any of these sites.

Might want to do what Forces does and have a specific area for items for sale [all other post areas will be deleted]

gilster

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by alist on Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:13 am

Jay wrote:

The only thang I didn't like about MYOs is it took me 45 mins just to make 20 cigs (one pack).

What kind of machine were you using? I could do a pack of 18 in 9 minutes.

alist

Smoker Joined: Sep 01, 2007 Posts: 133

by alist on Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:25 am

Jay wrote:

But not the same amount of nic in a normal cig.

It has the amount of nic in it that you put in it. If you put 2 mg nic solution in it, that's what you get. If you put 36 mg nic solution in it, that's what you get. Same is true with flavoring, whether it be tobacco flavored, watermelon, kahlua or whatever.

Jay wrote:

I think the nic in the E-cig comes out of a battery.

No, it comes out of a cartridge, which is refillable. If you make your own e-liquids (glycerine and or propylene glycol, flavorings, nicotine solution, etc) it can be very cheap to refill.

Jay wrote:

And when it runs outta nic, you gotta replace the battery with a new one.

When it runs out of nic you either refill it or replace the cartridge. You do not replace the battery until it dies. Until that day comes, you recharge the battery.

Jay wrote:

Feel free to correct me on how the E-cig works and where the nicotine comes from if not from a battery.

Done.

Jay wrote:

I did hear of people being able to smoke E-cigs in public places. But I bet it won't be long before antis find a way to ban smoking even E-cigs in a public place.

You would be surprised at the antis that are not bothered by it.

Jay wrote:

The E-cig is actually meant to be a quit smoking product according to the reporter.

The manufacturers and sellers of them have hung themselves by claiming that. Had they sold and advertised them as 'personal vaporizers,' they would not have invited FDA attention.

Jay wrote:

But she said some smokers treat the E-cig more as an alternative to smoking.

It can be either an alternative to smoking, or you can mix your e-liquids to lower and lower levels of nicotine and end up using zero nic e-liquids if you wish to quit.

Jay wrote:

I'm interested in smoking and tasting tobacco.

Then the device is not for you, unless perhaps you use e-liquids flavored like tobaccos.

Jay wrote:

A lotta folks in society think every smoker just smokes for the nicotine. Well if that was true, I dunno why 1000s of smokers are devoted to one brand.

Some claim the tobacco companies put addictive additives into the cigarettes to insure brand loyalty. I've no evidence whether that is true or not.

alist

Smoker Joined: Sep 01, 2007 Posts: 133

by smokeeey on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:50 pm

"Some claim the tobacco companies put addictive additives into the cigarettes to insure brand loyalty. I've no evidence whether that is true or not".

i think that tobacco itself is addictive enough so they don´t have to add any extra. The job is done for them Laughing

smokeeey

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