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by Darkseid
on Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:03 am |
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Ripped off from the Speakeasy:
[After years of being under the radar, RYO has now become a big target for taxes. The price of pre-made cigarettes are going sky high, so Phillip Morris is afraid of customer's going to RYO, and goverment has the same fear, hence it's now above the radar. The taxes are going to kill off many RYO dealers and suppliers, PM, R.J., do not have much invested in RYO, it's mostly smaller companies that supply bulk tobacco.]
"Granholm wants tax to snuff tobacco habit, help budget"
"LANSING -- Cost-cutting smokers soon will pay a whole lot more to roll their own cigarettes.
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And Gov. Jennifer Granholm wants to make them pay even more.
She has called for doubling the state tax on loose tobacco, cigars and snuff to help balance next year's state budget. That's on top of whopping increases in federal tobacco taxes -- including those for manufactured cigarettes -- that take effect April 1 to pay for expanding health insurance for low-income children, known as SCHIP.
The biggest federal tax increase hits roll-your-own tobacco, rising from $1.10 per pound to $24.78 per pound. Store-bought cigarette taxes are headed from 39 cents per pack to $1.01 per pack.
Granholm's budget wouldn't touch Michigan's $2-per-pack cigarette tax. But it would slam other tobacco smokers, chewers and puffers who've been a favorite tax target for states to balance budgets and, in the name of good health, discourage tobacco use.
If approved by the Legislature, state taxes on non-cigarette tobacco items would jump from 32% of wholesale price to 64% next year. Combined with the new federal tax, the average price of a one-pound bag of popular Gambler tobacco would skyrocket from $19 to $70 in Michigan.
A pound of tobacco can yield 2 1/2 cartons of homemade cigarettes, using inexpensive machines that stuff tobacco into premade paper tubes with filters. At $70, plus the cost of tubes, homemade would still be cheaper than $50-per-carton pre-rolled cigarettes, but would not be the bargain it is now.
"It's taking advantage of us. I don't mind paying a little extra if it helps the country. But I pay a lot of taxes," Russ Bonnici, 54, a customer at the Cigar & Cigarette Shop in Dearborn Heights, said last week. He had just bought a small bag of tobacco to make cigarettes." .......
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I reserve the right to return sheer hatred for special people. I hate this bitch and wish she would die. I feel the same way about Teddy K.(soon, but not soon enough), pig-face Waxman, and of course The Clintons and their former advisor Dick 'The Toesucker' Morris.
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by gilster
on Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:34 am |
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Funny story:
Over the weekend I was explaining the new Federal tax that will hit RYO this April 1st to an '(Liberal) who thinks 'all is right with the world now' acquaintance of mine'
I explained that the $10 a pound loose tobacco that he is currently buying will skyrocket to over $34/lb.
I warned him to buy enough tobacco to at least get through April, as the stock will be greatly diminished. After April 1st his cigarettes will go up at least $1.00/pack.
He looked at me like I had three heads, saying there is no way the government would raise the tax that fast and make a product cost three times as much overnight.
I had to walk away from him, stating:
"You are warned - see you April 2nd- thank a Democrat" |
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by seesolo
on Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:58 pm |
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gilster wrote: Funny story:
Over the weekend I was explaining the new Federal tax that will hit RYO this April 1st to an '(Liberal) who thinks 'all is right with the world now' acquaintance of mine'
I explained that the $10 a pound loose tobacco that he is currently buying will skyrocket to over $34/lb.
I warned him to buy enough tobacco to at least get through April, as the stock will be greatly diminished. After April 1st his cigarettes will go up at least $1.00/pack.
He looked at me like I had three heads, saying there is no way the government would raise the tax that fast and make a product cost three times as much overnight.
I had to walk away from him, stating:
"You are warned - see you April 2nd- thank a Democrat"
man wtf, i usually enjoy marlboro lights but at 4.75 a pack its pretty dam expensive, I'm a student, so i just switched to ryo's due to the cheap prices, 2.25 for about 40 cigarettes, cuts it in half, but now they're attacking that to? |
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by gilster
on Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:04 pm |
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Seesolo - it will still be cheaper and a helluvalot better without the FSC paper.
But yes, the Feds raised the loose tobacco to equal the $1.01/pack Federal tax.
Stock up* |
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by Neile_A
on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:58 pm |
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| Yes, april 1st here in Virginia the tax went into effect. I have Rolled My Own for the last 2 years. The cost of the tax seems to equal the cost of the tobacco. A bag that once cost $18.00, is now about $40.00. The tax is by the pound on RYO. My Mom was already paying about $10.00 more a carton on here generics last month in North Carolina. In all my life I have never seen such taxation. The sad thing is, it slipped in on me with out knowing it was coming, Imagine that! |
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by Jay
on Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:07 pm |
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Neile_A wrote: Yes, april 1st here in Virginia the tax went into effect. I have Rolled My Own for the last 2 years. The cost of the tax seems to equal the cost of the tobacco. A bag that once cost $18.00, is now about $40.00. The tax is by the pound on RYO. My Mom was already paying about $10.00 more a carton on here generics last month in North Carolina. In all my life I have never seen such taxation. The sad thing is, it slipped in on me with out knowing it was coming, Imagine that!
Sounds like you were one of many smokers who weren't aware of the tax hike at all til the late part of March. I'm sorry you got (probably) the biggest surprise of 2009.
I can imagine a lot more offline smokers being shocked at the tax hike than I think. This is one reason why smoking activism needs to expand to the radio and TV. Every smoker doesn't use the net.
Cause if there was like a 24/7 smokers rights cable TV station, then a lot more smokers would've been betta prepared (by stocking up sooner) for a tax hike.
I know....a Smokers Rights Network TV station wouldn't work. Since the ACS and the ALA would do everythang they can to get that station off the air for good. |
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