Saying, and worse! believing in, things such as: ''I personally believe you shouldn't be allowed to have children until you pass a test that proves you can properly provide for the child and will properly raise him.......and I mean financially, mentally and emotionally..........would you like such a law in place?'' is the reason these laws have to be placed in the first place.

You sound pissed. Too pissed to really contribute anything positive. Smoking aside, why don't you go to the child welfare services and huff and puff at them with your ''I own my child and can do with that child anything I want'' point of view. See what they have to say about your misinterpretation of your responsibility to raise a human being (not your child) properly. I am not talking about smoking either!

Everyone here, Please. I did not come here to this forum to be attacked. This kind of behavior is exactly why there is so much difficulty in trying to solve anything. If you want to ask me something or argue a point. I can do it. But It is unnerving and disappointing to be ganged up on and bullied.

My view is the same as with any other private property. My car or my house, no difference. As long as it dos not pose a significant danger to other vehicles and/or their occupants.

Any one in my vehicle is there by choice. If they are not old enough to make that choice then someone with legal authority to do so has. So, me for my kids, and the parents of any child that might ride with me.

You have ever right to restrict what I do on your property,. That where you make the rules. But not my property.

And that your choice for your car. And you can decide that for your kids since you control what vehicles they are in.

But jut because you didn't like something your parents did is not a valid reason to interfere with others.

Just like banning corporal punishment. Some people abuse things but not everyone (or even most) does.

Ok, but to be serious for a second, the questions posted fails to draw the difference of a ban on a person's action in a public places and now a restriction on a person's action while in a private setting. If the argument is to protect the health of those who cannot speak up for themselves, then how effective could this rule in cars really be? Is a child's health only important while driving? In my opinion, a person who needs to smoke while driving (kids or no kids) is probably a safer driver when they are smoking.

The car bans are just the next step. Get people to accept the intrusion into your private space by claiming "it's for the children" first, then there will be NO uproar when they crash through the front doors of your homes. Those cheering this on are actually dumb enough to believe this will stop with smoking (or drinking). They laugh at the idea that this will lead to government intrusion into every aspect of your life, including your private space at home (think kitchen, living room, bathroom, bedroom - someone somewhere wants to monitor what you do there). I can't wait to see them laugh when the nanny's finally come for them.