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by CigarBoy
on Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:26 pm |
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Well it looks like the issue is not dead in Nohio after all. There is a growing number of legislatures that are coming around to see that the ban is hurting business and hurting tax revenue.
As reported earlier reveune is down in bars about 35 percent in SW Ohio and not only does it hurt bars and some restaurants, but suppliers and vendors are hurt too.
It looks like legslatures will introduce a bill to exempt businesses that have food sales of less than 10 percent. It will also exempt cigar bars and private clubs. The entire Hamilton Co. House delagation (5 Republicans and 3 Crats) seem willing to support amending the current law.
I will keep you all posted. |
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by Lynda F
on Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:47 am |
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What is it with these people and food in a smoking environment? How nice of them to consider lightening the law just a little, and how generous of them to allow places that allow people to get drunk to also smoke, and have some peanuts.
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by Darkseid
on Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:03 pm |
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| CB, where are you gettin' your info? I haven't heard $hit for weeks myself, other than bar owners getting petition sigs. |
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by JEEP_GOD
on Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:19 am |
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I haven't heard anything about this until I read this post.
I hope something happens.
Thanks for the info. |
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by Darkseid
on Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:42 am |
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| I'm still waitin' for an answer. All I've heard personally is some people (not business owners, just activists) met with a few politicos that are (supposedly)sympathetic, and were told by said politicos (state level representatives) how to go about getting it amended properly (which means to me that the politicians aren't going to touch it with a ten-foot pole). |
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by ILss
on Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:32 am |
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| I hadn't heard anything about this either. |
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by CigarBoy
on Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:12 pm |
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I ran into the head of the Buckeye Liquer Permits Holders Association (Pat Carroll) at a Hamilton County Republican House Delegation Golf Outing. He gave me the info and I also talked to State Rep Bill Seitz. That organization broke off from the Ohio Licensed Bev Association because they would not effetively fight the Smoking Nazis.
http://thebarbiz.com/
These guys have some fight in them!
Here is a little article about the smoking ban.
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First smoking-ban fines issued
30 businesses, groups - including 2 locally - face $100 payouts
BY JON CRAIG | JCRAIGENQUIRER.COM
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COLUMBUS - Thirty Ohio businesses, veterans halls and fraternal groups have been fined $100 - including a tavern and Eagles lodge in Butler County - for violating the public smoking ban.
They're the first to be cited since the ban, approved by Ohio voters in November, started being enforced in May, according to the Ohio Department of Health. The statewide smoking ban covers most public places, including restaurants, bars and workplaces, but exempts retail tobacco stores, family-owned businesses, designated hotel rooms and enclosed areas of nursing homes.
• Who got fined? See the list
• See if complaints have been filed against your favorite bar or restaurant
Local establishments fined for a second violation, after receiving a certified letter of warning from the Middletown City Health Department this month, were the Fraternal Order of Eagles, 2114 Oxford State Road, and Jay's Lakeside Inn, 2019 Tytus Ave.
Jimmy Valentine, manager at Jay's Lakeside Inn, said his tavern received a warning letter, but he was unaware of the $100 fine.
"I wouldn't pay any of the fines," Valentine said Monday night. "I'll take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. Every bar in Middletown is allowing (people) to smoke."
Valentine said patrons at bars throughout Middletown are given cups of water to extinguish their cigarettes.
Valentine said the dining room became non-smoking three years ago.
However, the total smoking ban has cost the inn more than $1,000 a week in lost business, he said.
Kristopher Weiss, a spokesman for the state Health Department, said the cited groups and businesses have 30 days to request an administrative hearing.
State health officials predicted that the initial fines could take months because accused businesses get a warning letter after a first violation - which follows a formal complaint and investigation by a local health department.
"It will probably be weeks or months before we have the first fine," Weiss said in early May.
And Sara Morman, also of the state Health Department, said some local health departments are more aggressive than others in investigating and enforcing smoking complaints, so it's not surprising to find some counties issuing fines before others.
Enforcement "has everything to do with what the counties are doing," she said.
More than 11,000 smoking complaints have been received by the state during the past three months. Another 17,000 were made before May 3, when the new public smoking ban began being enforced.
One Enquirer reader, Jon Johnson of Hyde Park, scoffed at how low the initial fine is.
"I can just see the Eagles lodge in Middletown taking a happy donation or opening a NASCAR pool to pay that piddly $100 off," he said.
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070828/NEWS01/708280400/1056/COL02 |
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by Darkseid
on Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:10 pm |
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Enforcement "has everything to do with what the counties are doing," she said.
One Enquirer reader, Jon Johnson of Hyde Park, scoffed at how low the initial fine is.
"I can just see the Eagles lodge in Middletown taking a happy donation or opening a NASCAR pool to pay that piddly $100 off," he said.
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I hope you die a slow and painful death, you filthy ba$tard. |
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by Musician
on Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:11 pm |
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I'm glad to see something happening in Ohio and that the legislature will handle it rather than let the lemmings vote for it again until there is a cultural shift. (in other words the wake up call for the sheeple)
It is a start. Not great, but better than nothing. I can already see more people in several venues I have been playing for years coming back out for some nightlife.
I know I removed some dates from my calendar last week because two more venues closed.
Gotta love those liars down there at Smokefree oHeilo. |
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by Musician
on Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:13 pm |
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Lynda F wrote: What is it with these people and food in a smoking environment? How nice of them to consider lightening the law just a little, and how generous of them to allow places that allow people to get drunk to also smoke, and have some peanuts.
Geeeeeze.....................
Hey those peanut eaters were a good deal of my following!! |
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