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by Tom
on Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:03 am |
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| Ok preacher guest, so how are things at thetruth.com anyway? |
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by ScottyDog
on Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:54 am |
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I love the way you people always change the argument to suit your purpose. Outright bans on smoking because it bothers you.
The first argument was that second hand smoke is harmful, now it is just bothering you because the scientific evidence proves that the anti smoking lobby lied and is full of horse feathers.
Amazing how the argument always changes like that. |
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by Smokinjoe
on Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:21 am |
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I don't know one way or the other whether passive smoking is harmful or not, all I can say is I have refrained from smoking in my house for the past 25 years simply because my family does not like the smell of smoke, whether or not it is actually harmful or not is questionable but I can say that even I as a smoker am offended by the odor of a house that is smoked in.
You tend not to notice it until you go out and when you come back into the house and then you notice the stink of smoke also a yellow film can be found on the ceilings and walls and even on dishes inside of cabinets.
The anti-smoking freaks have become rabid when it comes to airports and that blows, airports are so cavernous smoking bans in them are totally BS, it is hard enough to deal with the stress of flying and not being able to smoke for the duration of your flight without being able to have that last smoke in the terminal before boarding.
I think that there are freaks who would complain about someone lighting up even as the plane was going down, this world is full of whiners and complainers who would do better to view life as a bad hostage situation with one certainty, ain't no one getting out of this alive.  |
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by ScottyDog
on Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:38 pm |
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There have now been 2 longterm studies that prove scientifically that second hand smoke is harmless but the anti crowd is now changing the argument.
They now claim it bothers them instead of causing cancer in a passive smoke victim.
I live in California where people think that if you light up outside it is offensive. I was at a park and woman about 50-100ft away came over and asked me to put it out that it was harming her and her children.
I told her to stuff it but it goes to show how the zealots have been brainwashed into thinking that even outside they are being harmed.
They just passed a law here that makes it illegal to smoke at the beach. Since they seem to think they can pass all of these laws, I want a rebate on all the taxes that I pay to keep these morons on the attack. |
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by guest
on Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:49 pm |
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scottydog, "you people," you mean non-smokers? yea I guess we do. but it seems to me that is what this whole topic is about; changing the arguement to suit your purpose. Arguing that smokeing dosent affect animals, I'm not a "P.E.T.A." person.
And the "out right bans," are not primarily due to people being botherd. It's more for health reasons. The Gov. raises taxes on tobacco to encourage people to stop. Not to piss you off, contrary to popular belief. Certainly your not going to attempt to argue the positive aspects of smoking on health. I've never met a healthy smoker.
stress of flying  " boo hoo, I have to get serched,boo hoo, Security is such a drag, boo hoo, this flying is soooooo stressful" nice out look on life, by the way. I herd a cleaver saying too: going through life healty is only the longest slowest way to death. Light em up boys!!!!
And it's standonline.org |
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by guestthey probally passed
on Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:56 pm |
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they probally passed that law because you don't know how to properly dispose of your waste. the proper method is to bend over and .....uh, put it in a waste receptacle  |
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by Smokinjoe
on Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:11 am |
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guest wrote: scottydog, "you people," you mean non-smokers? yea I guess we do. but it seems to me that is what this whole topic is about; changing the arguement to suit your purpose. Arguing that smokeing dosent affect animals, I'm not a "P.E.T.A." person.
And the "out right bans," are not primarily due to people being botherd. It's more for health reasons. The Gov. raises taxes on tobacco to encourage people to stop. Not to piss you off, contrary to popular belief. Certainly your not going to attempt to argue the positive aspects of smoking on health. I've never met a healthy smoker.
stress of flying " boo hoo, I have to get serched,boo hoo, Security is such a drag, boo hoo, this flying is soooooo stressful" nice out look on life, by the way. I herd a cleaver saying too: going through life healty is only the longest slowest way to death. Light em up boys!!!!
And it's standonline.org
Can't you find some place else to post like on the G.A.S.P. board or some other rabid anti-smoking lobby?
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And the "out right bans," are not primarily due to people being botherd. It's more for health reasons. The Gov. raises taxes on tobacco to encourage people to stop. Not to piss you off, contrary to popular belief. Certainly your not going to attempt to argue the positive aspects of smoking on health. I've never met a healthy smoker.
And it's standonline.org
"The Governers only raise taxes to encourage you to stop", huge crock!
Why play around? If encouraging you to stop is their motivation, quit playing around and outlaw Tobacco just like weed.
Truth is they are playing to what they perceive as a captive audience and are taking unfair advantage over the max.
Never met a healthy smoker, LOL, your circles must be small.
I have never missed a days work in over 30 years and can still run a mile in 5 minutes, perhaps you should be considering genetics or other enviromental causes for poor health.
I don't feel one should have to argue the merits of what they enjoy in life in what is supposedly a free country, I happen to enjoy smoking and find it relaxing so don't get on my case for smoking and I won't get on your case for J.O.  |
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by Guest
on Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:32 pm |
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by Bamse1989
on Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:38 pm |
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guest wrote: So do you think it dosen't bother an 18 month old set of lungs? Lungs of an unborn child, whose mother, is too weak of a person to stop? Or how about lungs whos parents smoke in the car; windows up OR down. Or lungs that have no choice but to live 18 years with an in house smoker. what a dumb topic Quote:
Ok I grew up in a house where both my parents smoked. While my mother was pregnant she quit smoking( I said that so people won't think my condition was caused by smoking) I have an immune disease and have been around smokers my whole life. I have never been told by my doctors that being around smokers has hindered my condition in anyway. Nor has my lungs heart body in any way been affected hmmmm explain that one |
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by Tom
on Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:20 pm |
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