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by Columbus Musician
on Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:14 am |
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Oh you didn't waste my time.
I was curious. I only own one Metallica thing
(And Justice for All). Haven't listened to it for quite awhile.
I thought them being such nannies about downloads was a bit Hollywood for them. I've never been a huge fan of theirs but read all the bootlegs that used to be passed around their fan base was what got the labels interested in them in the first place. They wanted a piece of their action.
Weird when people don't remember where they came from if there's any truth to that story. |
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by Torquemeda
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:29 am |
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Columbus musician: Marilyn Manson comes to mind. Guess he went to one of those really uptight right winger schools. Don't know his religious outlook
He is, or was, along with Jayne Mansfield, Sammy Davis Junior and King Diamond a member of the Church of Satan. Considering the guy who started this church died at St. Marys, a catholic church in San Francisco, I seriously doubt he took his own so-called "religon" seriously.
Kind of funny how cults are real similar to the anti-everything movement. Both members think they have power, while the higher-ups make some big money and try to convince everyone of their "cause."
Still I have to give Manson credit for his marketing strategy...plus, next to rap, he's one of the few rock 'n' rollers that still pisses parents off.
Like it is "an audition" for something bigger.....and worse.
That was always my opinion of mandatory drug-testing. Look what that's led to: People being tested for alcohol and tobacco, both legal substances. New York's even testing the bood/sugar content of diabetics.
I don't remember the 80's being so oppressive or the early 90's for that matter.
Actually, with the whole "drug war" propaganda, bands accused of satanism (Remember the trials of Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne?) and Tipper Gore's PMRC fiasco, the 80's were in their own way just as bad. I don't think what the anti-whatevers are doing today would be possible without getting their foot in the door back then. There was a huge witch hunt looking for those who are doing drugs and everyone jumped on the bandwagon, a lot like now. All that B.S. seemed to die out by the early 90's and started up again in the last five or ten years.
I still remember Motley Crue basically doing what Marilyn Manson did, releasing "Shout at the Devil" with a satanic pentagram on the cover and all sorts of references to satan in their lyrics. Once the alblum started selling well the cover was changed and afterwards they toyed with releasing alblums with totally commerciialized sounding hair-metal and numerous ballads. Their video "Smoking in the Boy's Room" doesn't even show anyone smoking.
To give credit a couple of bands did try to protest drug-testing, there was Jane's Addictions famous "Get your fucking piss-cup out of my face." statement on "Ritual de lo Habitual" and the best anti-drug testing song I've heard, 1991's "THC Groove" from the Bulletboys.
It is "an audition" for something bigger.....and worse.
That's why it's called an "erosin of freedom" 'cause it's done real gradually. When they burn themselves out this time around, we'll all have lost just a bit more and they'll be back in another ten years, even more ridiculous then they are this time around. Non-profits are a big business.
Eric Blair: Geese and Transexuals are protected minorities while people who choose to smoke tobacco are sent to concentration camps
I've often wondered when a man is surgically changed into a woman, he/she/it is still not a woman. I mean what's down there in it's nether-regions?
Is it a big scab? or a wound that never heals?
Whatever it is, in New Jersey it's more acceptable to have one than smoking a cigarette.
It's been a few years since Metallica sold out. Now they sound like Winger or Bon Jovi.
What I always thought should be banned was that poofed up mullet Winger had, and maybe his and Jovi's music. Whoops! I think Tipper Gore tried that.
As far as the end-of-the-world, I think people actually listening to Rob Reiner is pretty damn scary. |
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by Columbus Musician
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:37 am |
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I do remember the Tipper Gore stuff.
Just watched those great Zappa interviews on Crossfire in the last year.
Wish Zappa was still around in general.....and musically....... and to fight this.
He would probably would have been a hell of spokesman for our side.
(and FWIW Zappa died of prostate cancer for the anti lurkers who want to make a pointless point on his early death)
Zappa and Rob Reiner on Crossfire would be comedy at its very best. I'd wager Zappa would have been able to get the SOB to break down and cry. |
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by Darkseid
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:52 am |
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| Sorry to all, but it was the Klintons and ALGore who started the all-out war on smokers, and it started in earnest the day they took office-sweet hillary banned it in the WH. Since the media adored the Klintons (same sort of selfish , self-absorbed, hypocritical elitist scum as they were), they picked up the mantra, and so did the rest of the democRATic party, as they'd become 'Kilintonized' from top to bottom, and everyone repeated the daily sound bites on a regular, daily basis ("jack-booted thugs", Big Tobacco", "Mean-spirited", etc.). It was then I left the democRATic party. Now, about 12 years later, the repugs have become dem lite. |
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by Torquemeda
on Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:03 am |
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I actually thought the demonization started back when MADD and Drug/Alcohol treatment were being shoved down everyone's throat. Ya remember those TV movies like "Go Ask Alice," "Sarah 15: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic," (Linda Blair was more pleasant when she was in "The Exorcist.") and the one with Chachi from "Happy Days" where he smoked pot and acted like no one I've ever seen act before when he was stoned. There was also the episode of "The Brady Bunch" where Greg was caught smoking and some lady had some "Tobacco-Free Kids" shit going on and they were actually her son's cigarettes. That episode pretty much made up my mind to start smoking, especially after seeing the kids do that "Time To Change" song in another episode.
I even had an Marvel Comic in association with the ACS that starred Spider-man, Power-man and Storm where they fought a villian called Smokescreen.
Smokescreen's only superpowers seemed to be that he can emit a lot of smoke and is incredibly stupid. Whereas you have Doctor Doom and the Red Skull trying to rule the world, Smokescreen's plot is to addict the local high school track team to cigarettes so he can clean up by betting against them. I'm not making this up: http://www.4thletter.net/?p=28
Now tell me what is more likely to make a kid start smoking, Joe Camel's head resembling the male phallus or what I just stated above?
I'm a victim of society, the anti-smokers gave me a choice to either smoke or be like Greg Brady. |
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by Darkseid
on Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:47 pm |
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| All true enough, but-although smoker bans were here and there at that early time, the all-out daily media drumbeat didn't begin until their darlings, the Clintons fired the first major salvo-and invented the term 'big tobacco' (the evil empire). |
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by Torquemeda
on Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:34 pm |
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| Eeeegahhh!!! What in the hell is that on your avatar???!!! |
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by JEEP_GOD
on Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:41 pm |
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Torq, it appears Dark has chosen a pic of the resurrected girlfriend from Evil Dead II as his new avatar.
Good choice, Dark! |
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by jcleitz
on Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:54 pm |
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JEEP_GOD wrote: Torq, it appears Dark has chosen a pic of the resurrected girlfriend from Evil Dead II as his new avatar.
Good choice, Dark!
Nice call.. great movie.. going to see Evil Dead the musical on Saturday.. Sitting in the "splatter zone" too  |
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by JEEP_GOD
on Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:59 pm |
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